I've got about 1,500 miles on my R-28's now. They are louder than my Mavic's but seem to take the weekly pounding ok. I had some squeaking noise from the rear wheel spokes a few weeks ago but some chain lube seemed to take care of it.

Tubular or clincher
Are either of your wheels tubular or are both of you riding clincher? I see on the Neuvation website that the ligh-*test*-('") wheel set is the tubular but I have no experience on tubular.

Clinchers here as well

I noticed yesterday that my rear Neuvation wheel has developed some cracks where the spoke attaches to the rim. I have about 3,000 miles on them. I emailed Neuvation this morning and they have already shipped me a new wheel via UPS. I also wanted to mention my Vittoria Pro Slick tires. I just replaced them with some new Pro Slicks. I had 3,100 miles on them with 0 flats. Very reliable training tire and you can get them for $20.00.

I have some Huffy tires and wheels from when I was 8....solid rubber, no tubes, Lord knows how many miles I have on these and still no flats or bent rims or broke spokes. :D :)

Hey Scooter I expect to see you riding that Huffy this weekend for the A group ride :D I will bring the camera if you do so let me know :lol: As for rims I have a set of OpenPro's I had built at Bluebonnet and have over 10,000 miles on so far and still looking good. I think they are the best for training, they are not really a race wheel.

Scottie Is it asking for bad karma to say that you`ve had no flats? (i`m just asking)

Last year I went through 2 sets of M28's within a 12 month period. Each time the flange on the rear hub cracked on the drive side. Neither time was it a safety issue, just some serious wheel wobble once the flange separated from the hub and I was able to ride it home or back to the car. The first time John Neugent covered the replacement and sent me a brand new set. All he wanted was a photgraph showing the crack. The 2nd time it was out of it's origninal 12 month warranty, so I chalked it up. So for the price I'd say they are worth it because the service is outstanding, and they are a sharp looking set of wheels. However, it was a hassle dealing with the mechanical issues. I recently ordered a set of Open Pro handbuilt on Ultegra hubs w/ straight guage spokes for under $300 from Colorado Cyclist. So far so good and I'm hoping to get ThrasherTim kinda mileage out of mine:) I haven't heard anyone deal with what I went through with my Neuvations, but everyone that I've spoken with has gotten the same great service from John. He backs his products.

That was a bad batch of hubs that should be long gone by now :) Quite a few folks on BikeJournal had a similar issue, and all were resolved quickly. DB, Neuvation fan